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Post A Message | Return To Forum   Posted By Message links_lovers 09:19AM 07/10/2002 " Re: I have a LAST few words. " I NEVER intended for this to happen. All I wanted was a little peace, peace from Tilly. A separation for her. She doesn't have any goodness towards me, and all I want is separation from her. If everyone would just please associate with her elsewhere, I'd be happy. So happy. It's all I want. Please understand all. I just want peace. If only words could do more. Please forgive me. Reply To This Message Posted By Message links_lovers 09:18AM 07/10/2002 " Re: I have a LAST few words. " To the rest of the guild. As mentioned to everyone else previously, I feel very GUILTY for EVERYTHING I did. I feel so damn asinine, moronic, stupid, sickening and nasty! I hate MYSELF for how I have been acting. Feel dirty for my words, and moronic for my actions. I know words can be meaningless, of hold no value to those I wish to amend what I've done, and apologize to those I've hurt. All the talk in the world cannot change what I've done. It's already happened, and what's done, is done. If I had the chance, one chance, I'd go back in time, and correct my sinful mistake. Bringing back the way everything was, is probably way beyond reach now, I just hope everyone in this guild, and out of it, can find it in their hearts to forgive me. I know how I got this way. And I guess I can chalk it up to fear. I am deathly scared everyone is going to turn on me because of this ugly image Tilly always tries to portray of me. Ever since the first day our little feud begun, I have always been worried of the way she feels towards me would bleed over into people I knew or friends I had, getting them to feel differently and possibly turn against me. It scares the $h1t out of me. Scares me to near death that people are going to believe this horrible image she has painted for me, and turn against on me. All I want to do is separate myself from her. It's all I ask. This place is my sanctuary, a place where I can feel happy at, and not have to worry about anything. I escape reality for a little while here. And I feel like it has been tainted with Tilly's horrible image of me. Reply To This Message Posted By Message links_lovers 08:50AM 07/10/2002 " Re: I have a LAST few words. " I am not done. more coming. Please wait all. Reply To This Message Posted By Message links_lovers 08:35AM 07/10/2002 " Re: I have a LAST few words. " Matt: As stated to Bold. I feel the VERY same. Scummy, dirty, sinful, BLOODY RUDE and downright mean. I only felt you were siding with Tilly and you were agreeing what she was saying towards me was true. I am NOT like she portrays me to be. That is WHY I get so upset when my friends talk to her. I am SO worried she's going to paint this demonic image of me to you guys, and then EVERYONE is going to laugh and hate me. I have NEVER hated you, how can I? You have been so kind as well, like I have with you in the beginning, but I believe I have now repaid your kindness with total MALICIOUSNESS There may NOT be much more I can do. I feel VERY bad. I just HOPE you can forgive me, and I leave the option to return to the guild if you wish, position returned and admin functions restored. On a side note, I also can fully understand if you never want to talk to me again. I just REALLY need to say that, as I feel so AWFUL for the things I've said. Please forgive me. Reply To This Message Posted By Message links_lovers 08:18AM 07/10/2002 " Re: I have a LAST few words. " For those reasons, I want to seperate myself from her. I DON'T want to continue on with this bickerning like she wants to. I don't want to spend the next 10-20-30 years of my life arguing with someone who DOESN'T give one crap about me. And this guild, my friends, this place I WORKED so hard to make happen for people here, was thrown back in my face when I felt stepped on by people bucking the one small rules I asked everyone to follow. It wasn't much to ask. But... I say these last few things. A bit may be a repeat and I hope ALL sees this. Even Matt, Deke, Bold and Cam. I am SO SORRY. I know words may mean NOTHING, but, it's all I can do at this point. I FEEL $h1tty, scummy, sinful and like a heal. I really need to talk to Cam again. She has been right about what she says, ALL ALONG. Cam... PLEASE e-mail me, IM me or however you can. I REALLY need to talk to you, I need your tongue lashings, I need your wisdom and advice. Please yell at me, I deserve it. You are ALWAYS right in what you say. And at this point, I don't know what to do. Bold: -=Sigh=- I feel SO SCUMMY! And D@MMN bloody wrong. I am sorry I yelled back. OH I WISH I COULD do more, but, apoligizing is all I can do now. I was never mad that you thought I should contact Silvrestis, I just felt like I was being DEMANED to do so, and right away. Actually, I should have just e-mailed her and mentioned to you I felt like I was being yelled at. I could've addressed it better. I just DON'T like being demanded when i can be asked, but, it's no excuse and I apologize. And, as I told DG, I can completely understand if you never want to talk to me again. But, please forgive me. More coming. Reply To This Message Posted By Message links_lovers 08:16AM 07/10/2002 " Re: I have a LAST few words. " Over this pic. No, I was NEVER opposed to e-mail Silvertis, I was only opposed to doing so when people SCREAMED and DEMANDED I did so, and ON THE SPOT. If I were asked a bit more calmly and WITHOUT the dictations, I would've obliged right away. You MUST remember, attitude and the way you ask things, plays a BIG part on HOW someone will respond to what YOU want. I leave ONE last option as DG has made me feel different at this point. Her letter made me cry and I at this point would like to say this. Okay, I will place hold on this guild. I will leave it open. I will REMOVE the background and e-mail Silvetris. Everyone can return here, if they wish and resume their old positions before the Link's Sanctuary gets moving. Matt can have his postion back with FULL functions as well as Wolfie. I will return all my accounts here and put the count CLOSE to where it was. Only rules will be. NO reesponding to Tilly. If she cannot say things WITHOUT getting smart and flinging insults at me, then people need to talk to her ELSEWHERE. I feel in a way, she was trying to convince people I am some sorta demonic person, and it plays ANOTHER part in the way I feel. Second rule: Be nice to fellow people. No DEMANDING of ANYTHING, and asking is meerely enough. Third: NO slinging insults around. This is ALL I ask. All. Nothing more. I could CARE LESS if anyone gives me ANYTHING. I only want to be acknolwedged on what I do for people, and a little respect is all I ask. I am DEEPLY SORRY for the way I acted. I feel so bad, SPECIALLY AFTER DG's email. It was only after people started talking to Tilly when I asked several times for people not to do so, is WHY I got so upset. You need to understand that I am trying to seperate myself from her. She DOESN'T want to even TRY to get along, she DOESN'T care how she makes me feel. She only wants to laugh at me and sling more insults in my direction. Reply To This Message Posted By Message links_lovers 08:13AM 07/10/2002 " Re: I have a LAST few words. " My point to all this... I NEVER treat ANYone's KINDNESS with ungreatfulness. Whenever someone treats me kindly, or shows me compassion, I am FIRST to return the favor. And usually with more then I was given. No, I DON'T expect much in return for what I do, I HARDLY ask much. I only had three wishes/rules. 1) Treat each other respectfully, 2) Don't argue 3) I didn't want Tilly responded to here. My wishes were easy to follow, and NOT much to ask. Everyone KNOWS my feelings about Tilly, and the 7 month long war she is trying to carry against me. I NEVER told ANYone to NOT talk to her, I just didn't want it done here, as her only goal when she posts here, is to bash my character. She NEVER has one kind thing to say about me. I got SO upset when everyone started replying to her. When everyone started going against the smallest request I asked. It WASN'T much to follow, and WASN'T much to ask. If Tilly WASN'T so rude to me, I would NOT get upset when she posts here. At this point, I DON'T hate her, but, I DO NOT want to be friends, as she stated the same towards me. I can forgive her, but, I CAN NEVER forget. Reply To This Message Posted By Message gingerk21 07:35AM 07/10/2002 " Classic! " That is just CLASSIC. I love the "I...I..." and the "YES! I'll SAY IT!!" And especially the "(pause)" LMAO! It's words in writing. I get such a kick out of it when people *write in* their dramatic pauses. Well, we knew that LQ was an awful writer. I get the feeling you watch a lot of daytime TV, LQ. I'm always a little nauseous when people insist that they're so kind and wonderful and awesome, and that's all LQ has always done, and it also sort of makes me laugh. I see that the pic is gone, and that's a good thing. If it stays gone, why then, SIlvestris never has to know it was there in the first place. I'm glad that LQ was bluffing (as usual) about HITTING THE AUTO SELF DESTRUCT BUTTON AND TAKING U ALLLLLL DOWN W/IT!!!!!!!" (Not that I for one moment really thought she would...) This place is just too much fun. Reply To This Message Posted By Message links_lovers 07:21AM 07/10/2002 " Re: I have a LAST few words. " Friends are VERY special to me, and I cherish them to the end, despite the status of the relationship. Whether it may be, internet, personal, distant or close, I ALWAYS care, even if I NEVER see their face. Like I said, I only hate being taken advantage of. Sometimes I ask myself, why am I so kind? I usually get kicked in the @$$ for it later on. But no, it's my nature to be kind. And would I do it again? Does the ocean flow with shades of blue? Even though I may end up the sap in the long run, I will always be the way I am. Whatever impact this letter may have on you, will not change the way I will understand your reasons. I can FULLY understand if you NEVER wish to talk to me again after this. I have been so wrong. But, I must say this. Thank you for EVERYthing you've done for me. I will cherish your kindness till the day I take my last breath. Your kindness will NOT be forgotten. Even though I may not see eye to eye with Cam on everything she believes in... Just tell her... She was right. -Jennifer (AKA Link's Queen and a First Class Heal) Reply To This Message Posted By Message links_lovers 07:18AM 07/10/2002 " Re: I have a LAST few words. " The words play over and over again in my mind. Repeating itself like a broken record. Kind words, compassion, pity, sadness and caring. You've showed me ALL those feelings. And as DG, I treated you like... yes, I'll say it... $H1T!! -=Hits self over head again with her dictonary=- Now I feed dirty, sinful and just plain scummy. >__< I LOATHE being angry. LOATHE IT! I have had the upbringing of ALWAYS putting OTHER'S FIRST and MYSELF last. And despite the attitude I may have acquired over my past years, specially from the brutal years of school, I am STILL last. Bending over backwards for people, even ones I don't know quite as well as ones I do, going out on a limb, being VERY gracious and generous, is my way of life. EVEN taking people I hardly know and doing whatever I can for them. Like Shiekie. No, I don't know her as well as some, but, when she threatened to commit su1c1de, I was scared and deeply upset. Maybe my actions may have been wrong, but my heart was in the right place, and I cared. My only disadvantage... I don't expect much in return, but, when I should receive, I wish people would only show their appreciation for what I've done for them, and only treat me respectfully. I could NEVER ask as much back as I gave them... I could NEVER ask for anything more then, appreciation and gratefulness for what I've done. I only ask for people to acknowledge what I do for them, and only respect any wishes I may have in return. I don't like to be taken advantage of for my kindness. I am a VERY giving person. Hell, I'd even give my OWN life for my Best Friend if need be. I care about her, and she's like family to me. If she were dying, and I could save her life even if it meant my death, I'd sacrifice myself to do so. Reply To This Message Posted By Message links_lovers 07:15AM 07/10/2002 " I have a LAST few words. " If people want to UNDERSTAND why I got so upset, read the e-mail I sent to DG. This explains PERFECTALLY WHY I did what I did. Letter to DG: ...????? O_o !!!!!! WAIDDAMINUTE?! You're LISA?! The VERY same one who Beta'ed my fics?! O.o O.o O.o O.O I THOUGHT something wasn't right when a copy of Forbidden Love with the title encoded in that special font I used showed up on the MST board. I know I only used that specific font on my computer and it changed when I posted it on the guild. You were the only other person to receive a copy of that fic. No... I... I cannot hate you, I REFUSE to! You had been SO kind to me. Beta'ing my fics. Listening to my feelings. Just being my friend all together. Oh... God I am struggling so hard not to cry hard. I am literally crying while writing this, and struggling to hold from bursting out. Oh God... If only words could show my actual sadness at this point... My only question is... Why? Why the deception, the charade? You could've came outright and told me who you were. Regardless, your kindness and endearing qualities would've made us friends real fast, despite who you really were. I... I don't know what to say. I feel so bad that I could've EVER treated you the way I have in the past. OH DIN I FEEL SO HORRIBLE! No, please don't have pity for me, as I don't wallow in it myself. I deserved this, I made a sin, and God said I deserved this consequence. I am SO sorry and I beg your forgiveness. Please forgive me for my wrong doings. Yes. I would LOVE for you to continue to beta... That's if you still want to. If you do not, then I understand whole heartily. But... I CANNOT help but feel like a first class heal! The THINGS I've said to you, all the ROTTEN things... -=Hits self over head with dictonary=- I guess in a way, I can never forgive myself for what I've done to you. Maybe you can, surely God can, but...(pause) I cannot. I am sorry. Reply To This Message Posted By Message linaholling 11:30AM 07/09/2002 " Hey everyone " This is Cam. Some of you may remember who I am even though I've never chatted directly to any of you- I'm sorry I'm posting under these circumstances. If you don't know me - Hi, I'm Camilla, was once beta-reader for Queenie. Anyway, feeling rather bad you all get the short end of the stick here, Bold is making a new guild that you may all join. It's up at http://www.neopets.com/guilds/guild.phtml?oid=zelankaosu and called Link's Sanctuary. I'll be there too, but admin powers will be given to some of you and it'll be your guild. Not much there yet, but we're working on it. If any of you have any questions or want to yell at me, you can find me at AIM as El Camita and MSN under Cammy_Sandy@hotmail.com. I even am willing to talk soccer, Matt, as I am European and grew up with it I think that's it. Again, very sorry that you guys have to suffer over a disagreement that had nothing to do with you - and hopefully I will see you in the guild. Reply To This Message Posted By Message danak904 10:16AM 07/09/2002 " Re: no links_queen " were going a way? im soree i havnt ben talkig much i haf been busee wif camp. pls donot go a way! i liek u all. wher will we go??? Reply To This Message Posted By Message links_lovers 08:01AM 07/09/2002 " Re: no links_queen " But, if you DECIDE after reading them that YOU DON'T like her, DON'T come crying back to me on how m3333an she was to you! You've ALREADY burnt the bridge between us, and THERE'S NO TURNING BACK NOW! ANY OTHER TAKERS?! Lets burn SOME MORE bridges while where at it! I am all up to a bon fire tonight! There REALLY ISN'T going to be anything to save this guild now! I believe EVEN formal apologies won't help this time! What's done is done, and a lesson MUST be learned here, today. Next time, DO WHAT your guild leader says, and DON'T take advantage of his/her generosity when it's SO graciously given! Remember, if people DIDN'T have such insubordination, DIRECT insurrection, then MAYBE this guild wouldn't be on its way to its doom! Think of THAT next time you defy a guild leader's DIRECT orders! This is my FINAL message. Any other business, apologies and or complaints can be directed to my e-mail now. This guild is NOW destroyed. Goodbye. I hope everyone does well out there. -Links Queen signing off. Reply To This Message Posted By Message links_lovers 08:00AM 07/09/2002 " Re: no links_queen " Sorry Linkie jr. The destruction has already begun. This is the HARDEST decsion I have EVER made, but, I say WHAT I mean to do, and THIS is my proof! I'll let you join my other guild. DO NOT under any circumstances tell ANYone the link to this guild! I DON'T want some people here going there, and stirring up trouble for my guild leader. I removed all my bloody accounts, took everyone off the council except Snapps(MY TRUE friend on this bloody sinking ship!), and removed ALL admin functions! You people have treaded on a thin wire with me, and it SNAPPED! Now, everyone reaps the consequences! Next them, think before you become a bloody traitor against me and side with my enemies! I was gracious in the beginning, but, I am not so nice ANYMORE! AND... if you SIDE or SIDED with Tilly, forget my bloody e-mail, forget my bloody AIM and MSN SN's and BLOODY FORGET ABOUT ME! I DON'T need traitors, and I DON'T need INGRATES! As the b1tch Tilly once said to me... "I can live without people and those kind of qualities." AND I WILL ALSO! If you people want to be her friend, EVEN AFTER all the rotten things she's said about some of you on the MST board, SPECIALLY YOU SHIEKIE, then be my guest! But, maybe you won't feel so compelled to side with her AFTER seeing what she said! Here, go to the MST board, shift through the archives and READ what she said about you WHILE you were having those su1c1de thoughts. http://mstings.tripod.com Reply To This Message Posted By Message matt_casey13 07:48AM 07/09/2002 " Re: no links_queen " ok this is bull $h!+! i never took any sides, i remained neutral dam/\/it!!! i never said i hated u and crap like that. i care for you queenie, we all do. and i relize that tilly may have just done this to destroy the guild or w/e. but this may pa$$, and i thought i did my duty as a guild council member by deciding to take a democratic stance on this. so whats the big friggen deal. Reply To This Message Posted By Message slayer_of_gannon 06:50AM 07/09/2002 " no links_queen " i do!!!!!!!!!!!! and i wont even be here today. i know thise is werd but i fell like i know every one in this guld and and i have been here foever butt i dont so let me know you i love theis guld Reply To This Message Posted By Message links_queen_kitiara 06:44AM 07/09/2002 " Re: THIS IS THE LAST STRAW " NO ONE CARES HOW MUCH I HURT NOW, AND I AM NOT WORRIED. I AM WAY PAST APATHETIC NOW, AND AT THE POINT WHERE NOTHING COULD MATTER! I HAVE WONDERFUL TILLY TO THANK FOR MY NEW ATTITUDE! I ALWAYS USED TO CARE, BUT WHY BOTHER? NO ONE GIVES A $H1T ABOUT ME! SO, WHY SHOULD I?! NOOO, A BLOODY INANIMATE OBJECT, A D@MN PICTURE IS MORE IMPORTANT THEN HUMAN LIFE, AND YOU CAN HAVE IT! LET THE BLOODY THING RUNS YOUR LIVES, IT DOESN'T RUN MINE! AS THE PHOENIX DIES AND RISES FROM IT'S OWN ASHES, SO WILL THIS GUILD. I WILL START THE HE11 OVER IF I HAVE TO, AND AS MANY TIMES AS NEED BE! I AM THAT PHOENIX, IN SPIRIT, WITH DREAMS, HOPES, AND COMPASSION THAT MOST OF YOU DO NOT KNOW! LET THE PHOENIX RISE ONCE MORE, SO SHE MAY PREVAIL!! FINAL NOTE: GOOD BYE EVERYONE AND I HOPE YOU'LL FIND NEW GUILDS TO GO TO. I ALREADY HAVE ONE! -=HITS THE AUTO-DESTRUCT BUTTON=- Reply To This Message Posted By Message links_queen_kitiara 06:43AM 07/09/2002 " THIS IS THE LAST STRAW " ALRIGHT! I HAVE ASKED FOR THE LAST TIME FOR PEOPLE NOT TO RESPOND TO TILLY AND NO ONE LISTENED! NOW, EVERYONE'S GOT 24 HRS TO GET OUT OF THE GUILD, FOR I AM GOING TO KILL THIS ENTIRE THING! I WARNED EVERYONE AND NO ONE LISTENED. NOW THERE WILL BE NO GUILD FOR YOU PEOPLE TO RESPOND ON! GO TO HER FREAKIN GUILD FOR ALL I CARE YOU TRAITOROUS INGRATES I SO GRACIOUS BENT OVER BACKWARDS FOR! I JUST LOVE HOW MY GENEROSITY IS SOON FORGOTTEN BY SO MANY! SPECIALLY MATT AND SHIEKIE! NO MATTER, I AM REMOVING ALL MY ACCOUNTS TODAY, AND BLOWING UP THIS GUILD TOMORROW! YOU PEOPLE WANT TO SIDE WITH THAT B1TCH TILLY, BE MY GUEST! THEN YOU'RE NO FREAKIN FRIENDS OF MINE! NONE OF YOU GIVE A CRAP ABOUT ME AND THE G D@MN GRACIOUS THINGS I HAVE DONE FOR THIS GUILD! NONE OF YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH I'VE DONE FOR YOU PEOPLE HERE! SOON FORGOTTEN HOW I PROTECTED EVERYONE AND STOOD BESIDE EVERYONE WHEN THE CHIPS WERE DOWN! AND SPECIALLY YOU, SHIEKIE! I STOOD BEHIND YOU THE ENTIRE WAY AFTER YOUR FRIEND COMMITTED SU1C1DE, AND WHAT DO I GET?! BLOODY TRAITORESS! THANK YOU SHIEKIE FOR YOUR WONDERFUL KINDNESS IN RETURN FOR WHAT I SO GRACIOUSLY GAVE YOU! I JUST LOVE THE BLOODY BASK-STABBING I'VE RECEIVED OVER A G D@MN, BLOODY PICTURE! A G D@MMN INANIMATE OBJECT GETTING IN THE WAY OF FRIENDSHIPS, CAUSING CHAOS, MAKING NOISE! GAH, MORE THEN IT'S WORTH! YOU WANT THE BLOODY OBJECT REMOVED!? FINE! YOU'LL GET YOUR WISH AS THERE WILL BE NO GUILD FOR IT TO BE ON BY TOMORROW! I AM NO ONE DOOR MAT, AND NEVER WILL BE! NO ONE SHOWED THIS KIND OF PROTECTION FOR ME WHEN MY BLOODY STORY WAS PLAGIARIZED 3 TIMES ON FANFICTION, OR WHEN THE BLOODY D@MN MST WAS DONE! BUT, EVERYONE SOON JUMPS TO THE PROTECTION OF SOMEONE ELSE! ONE-SIDED I SAY! THIS WHOLE BLOODY THING IS ONE-SIDED! F%^$ IT ALL! I SAID I DIDN'T NEED THIS BLOODY GOD FORSAKEN GUILD, AND I MEAN WHAT I SAY! AT LEAST ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE FRIENDLY AND NICE OVER THERE, AND DON'T ARGUE OVER STUPID CRAP SUCH AS THIS! Reply To This Message Posted By Message steeviebs_babe 03:09AM 07/09/2002 " :o!!! " matt, that was bootifull!!!!! *hugs matt* u toof tha words right outta mai mouth!! wanna put them back in *evil grin* tee hee, sorry, i'll keep it g-rated! (i would like to announce that matt is amazingly good looking and i would like to... oh yea, g-rated of course silly me!!!) jks, lol yea, and tilly... do u have a guild? sozzie for being a total traitor LQ, but she kinda awesome, lol i dunno y i dun hate her... mayb i should... naaaaaaaah can't be bothered! and yea, how r ya at tha moment?? OMG QUEENIE I REPLIED!!!! :O!!! r u gonna kick me out? (and if she does, then email me guys! ultra_sexy_diva69@hotmail.com AND Orlandos gal for aim) so there ya goes peeps! buh baiz now!!! luvs ya ALL (specially matt ) lol (im finally single and loving it!) so bai bai!!! *kisses matt on cheek then runs off as queenie throws stuff at her* *but not b4 she hugs tilly, (nice meeting ya) and every1 else to, coz u ALL awesome ) Reply To This Message Posted By Message slayer_of_gannon 09:42PM 07/08/2002 " hello " hi you guys whats up Reply To This Message Posted By Message herr_slickmeister 04:35PM 07/08/2002 " Re: Okayyyy... " You're being a very intelligent being, Matt, and in appreciation of your logic, I apologise for the names I called LQ. However, I don't apologise for my opinion in this matter, and I think that Ginger/Tilly has presented what I'm feeling quite accurately. *bows to the 'dilligent' mastah* Reply To This Message Posted By Message matt_casey13 02:43PM 07/08/2002 " Re: Okayyyy... " i hope no one got mad at that message cause i tried not to dish out name calling and so forh, it took me an hour to edit that cause the original message was 500 characthers too long, so i hope my point still go across Reply To This Message Posted By Message matt_casey13 02:41PM 07/08/2002 " Re: Okayyyy... " ok gin im glad you said whats been on my mind the whole time,w/o me sayen it.i have taken the back seat to this the hole time,but since i am a member of the council,i believe i need to step into this mess,and try to straighten things out.gin,jess and lq have all called each other names.this is not nice at all,you cant get newhere in a major decision without being nice on both sides,even if 1 side is hostile the other must remain calm to keep the peace.this has obviously not happened within the past few days.jess and queenie have acted like kids bickering over this simple issue,which is completely unnesacerry.lq has brought up laws that she cant fully interpret herself,and i believe jess cant either.dont bring laws into play,if you cant interpret them,and if you think you can,dont rest assure that you can do such a thing.this is a neopets guild,not a senates desicion to approve of someone to enter the presidents cabinet.this hasnt been a very democratic thing,it has been more or less a shouting match.i think many of u will agree with me on this.to solve this problem i believe we should hold another guild poll to see what the whole guild think and not just 2 or 3 people.i realize others have spoken such as wolfie,deke and jess,but their points havent been taken.jess and lq have not taken into consideration the feelings of the rest of the guild.and i relize that tilly may not be the best of peeps,and may terrorize your life lq,but people throughout the history of earths being have had to live with peeps they dont like,and the fact its only the net and you dont have to see them everyday should make it a little less frustrating.we all have probs,some more than others.so i declare that we go to a democrating stance on this,its only fair,afterall this guild consists of many more members than 2 or 3. Reply To This Message Posted By Message herr_slickmeister 11:23AM 07/08/2002 " Re: That's not ALL I have to say " I have other things I would like to say, but this message is awaiting deletion. my aim is Vron Nen my MSN is axaverri@hotmail.com my email is mexicanswithguns@trigun.com or mexicanswithguns@canada.com my message board is http://www.voy.com/81652/ alternate message board is http://pub12.ezboard.com/bthehangerbay Reply To This Message   Displaying Page 1 of 4 Previous  -  Next >>